Warrant Officer Alfred Vice  CREDIT RAF
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Veteran's WWII Lancaster Logbooks And Navigator Charts Digitised

A veteran WW2 Lancaster navigator’s charts and logbook have been digitised for posterity, 75 years after his first mission.

Warrant Officer Alfred Vice  CREDIT RAF

Warrant Officer Alfred Vice watched the process of his charts being digitised (Picture: RAF).

The Army’s 135 Geographic Squadron Royal Engineers has digitised a veteran WW2 Lancaster navigator’s charts and logbook for posterity, 75 years after his first mission on 27 November 1944.

Ninety-seven-year-old Warrant Officer Alfred Vice was a navigator with 166 Sqn and flew 35 bombing missions out of RAF Kirmington, Humberside between January and March in 1945.

After hearing the Alfred had served on Lancaster's during the war a family friend, Retired Wing Commander André Adamson, organised tickets for Alfred to attend the dedication of the Bomber Command Memorial in central London, followed by dinner at the RAF Club.

While there, out of a Sainsbury's carrier bag, Alfred produced maps and his logbook.

André said he straight away knew the significance of these maps: "Up until then, Alfred had played down his wartime activities but on probing he had done significant service with Bomber Command and had survived 35 sorties."

André was then put in touch with Major Will Robertson at the 135 Geo Sqn to see if they could assist digitising the charts and logbook.

Warrant Officer Alfred Vice
The digitising process was also used as a training task for reserve soldiers (Picture: RAF).

The logbook could then be given to the International Bomber Command Centre (IBCC), Lincoln for their records.

The IBCC is a world-class facility to serve as a point for recognition, remembrance and reconciliation for Bomber Command.

Accompanied by his wife Joan and daughter Amanda, Alfred visited 135 Geo Sqn to watch the process his charts are going through to digitise them.

“It was fascinating to see how they can superimpose my old stuff onto current information and that can be available to anyone after I am gone,” said Alfred.

“During our sorties it was vital we stayed on track and time as other bombers were dropping their bombs at different heights and we did not want to be below others when we were doing so.

"Looking back I didn’t appreciate how hard it was for the two air gunners who had to sit there hour after hour looking out for night fighters and our own bombers above us during our run-in.

"Many a time they advised the skipper over the target, 'There’s one above us Bill - jink left', upsetting the bomb aimer."

Major Robinson said that 135 Geo Sqn were delighted to be able to assist in the preservation of this historically important geospatial material.

"Whilst using it as a training task for our Reserve soldiers in their Bulk Replication role, it added an important and relevant dimension that it was of such an important nature.

"3D visualisation and Mission Planning, as well as the ability of modern-day RAF aircrews to access digital air charts through the Aeronautical Information Documents Unit website, provided Alfred with a taste of how Geo Support has developed.

"Having such a distinguished veteran in the unit was a treat for our soldiers who enjoyed both the technical task and interacting with him."

Warrant Officer Alfred Vice

Further probing revealed that Alfred and his crew flew all 35 missions together in the same aircraft.

"I and my crew were lucky in all respects.

"We stayed together and our old bus saw us all the way through.

"On returning from one sortie we noticed something sticking out of the wing.

"It turned out to be an incendiary bomb from a bomber above us in the raid.

"It was stuck between the fuel tanks and elevators and did not ignite. We were lucky crew."

Alfred’s daughter Amanda Stevens added another story.

"To show my father’s sense of humour he told us that one time on returning in bad weather they just missed the steeple on a nearby church," she said.

"He laughingly remarked that if we had crashed we would have been efficient by burying ourselves in the graveyard!"